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Never A Phase PODCAST

Never a Phase Podcast hosted by Swemo

Each episode, Swemo sits down with friends from across the scene to talk about their history with the music we love, as well as the current Hot Topics shaping the future of the genre. Every guest then faces the Lightning Round where they’re forced to take a side in some of the most heated (and sometimes hilariously petty) debates that could have come straight from your favorite online message board.

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Swemo

Swemo is what happens when your emo band never quite makes it and your midlife crisis involves going viral on TikTok instead of buying a motorcycle. Back in the mid-2000s, he fronted a now-defunct Ohio band called Reserved, opening for scene royalty like The Used, My Chemical Romance, Senses Fail, and Gatsby’s American Dream. They had fans. Mostly in their hometown. Fast-forward a couple decades and Swemo is now a suburban dad with a knack for nostalgia and a surprisingly deep knowledge of Taylor Swift lore. Somewhere along the line, the Swifties adopted him, crowned him “The Swemo Guy,” and made him the unofficial spokesperson for the bizarrely perfect marriage of two very different kinds of heartbreak anthems.

Episodes

Never A Phase 7: When The Sun Sets
1:00:12
Latest Episode

Never A Phase 7: When The Sun Sets

IT'S THE YEAR OF THE DONUT! And the Big Donut Sponsored Band When the Sun Sets is here to talk to Swemo on the Never A Phase Podcast! In this interview, Zack Baumgartner from When the Sun Sets opens up about the band’s journey, why mental health matters in their music, and how the Chicago pop-pun...

March 20, 2026•1:00:12
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Never A Phase 6: Tokyo Rose
EP 6
1:05:20

Never A Phase 6: Tokyo Rose

This week on the Never A Phase Podcast, Swemo talks to Ryan Dominguez from Tokyo Rose. Ryan shares the band's journey from the Jersey punk scene to their recent reunion and new music. Discover insights into their musical evolution, scene connections, and the enduring spirit of DIY punk culture. C...

Mar 6, 2026•1:05:20
NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts: The Imperfect Dads Podcast welcomes Robb Laffoon
EP 5.5
1:09:05

NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts: The Imperfect Dads Podcast welcomes Robb Laffoon

Another edition of NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts, where we dig into the archives of your favorite NAPNET Podcasts and get another look at an episode you might have missed. In this episode of the Imperfect Dads podcast the show welcomes NAPNET's own Robb Laffoon, co-host of Emo Kids Anonymous. They ex...

Feb 28, 2026•1:09:05
Never A Phase 105: Good Night Moon
EP 5
51:38

Never A Phase 105: Good Night Moon

In this episode of the Never a Phase podcast, Swemo sits down with Rob of Good Night Moon to unpack a reunion that’s been more than 20 years in the making. Born out of a tight-knit group of high school friends in Florida’s early-2000s emo and pop-punk scene, the band quickly became part of a vibr...

Feb 20, 2026•51:38
NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts: EKA 006 /w Swemo
EP 4.5
1:30:20

NAPNET Presents Deep Cuts: EKA 006 /w Swemo

In this episode throwback episode of Emo Kids Anonymous, hosts Amanda and Robb welcome their first guest, Ryan, AKA the Swemo Guy. The conversation delves into Ryan's background in the emo scene, his influence on TikTok, and the resurgence of emo culture. They explore the connections between Tayl...

Feb 13, 2026•1:30:20
Never A Phase 104: Further North
EP 4
1:25:59

Never A Phase 104: Further North

This week Swemo hangs with Further North for a real-deal, no-filter conversation about life as a Texas Pop-Punk band bring Sad Dad Rock to the masses. We talk about how the band grew up on MXPX, Relient K, and all the melodic, heart-on-sleeve stuff that made us want to start bands in the first pl...

Feb 6, 2026•1:25:59