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Never A Phase PODCAST

Never a Phase Podcast hosted by Swemo

Each episode, Swemo sits down with friends from across the scene to talk about their history with the music we love, as well as the current Hot Topics shaping the future of the genre. Every guest then faces the Lightning Round where they’re forced to take a side in some of the most heated (and sometimes hilariously petty) debates that could have come straight from your favorite online message board.

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Swemo
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Swemo

Swemo is what happens when your emo band never quite makes it and your midlife crisis involves going viral on TikTok instead of buying a motorcycle. Back in the mid-2000s, he fronted a now-defunct Ohio band called Reserved, opening for scene royalty like The Used, My Chemical Romance, Senses Fail, and Gatsby’s American Dream. They had fans. Mostly in their hometown. Fast-forward a couple decades and Swemo is now a suburban dad with a knack for nostalgia and a surprisingly deep knowledge of Taylor Swift lore. Somewhere along the line, the Swifties adopted him, crowned him “The Swemo Guy,” and made him the unofficial spokesperson for the bizarrely perfect marriage of two very different kinds of heartbreak anthems.

Episodes

Never A Phase 29: Radkey
53:43
Latest Episode

Never A Phase 29: Radkey

On Never A Phase 29, Swemo sits down with RADKEY, the Missouri-born rock band made up of three brothers who grew up homeschooled in what they affectionately describe as a “shitty little pink house,” raised on their dad’s punk and metal records and the DIY spirit that would eventually become the f...

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Never A Phase 28: Origami Angel
EP 28
15:46

Never A Phase 28: Origami Angel

Kanan is back with another Never A Phase conversation, this time sitting down with Ryland and Pat of Origami Angel! The duo talks about their latest releases, including two brand-new songs with a very specific Pokémon connection, and how those tracks originally came to life as the theme songs for...

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Never A Phase 27: Pedro Aida | The Iron Roses & Shotclock
EP 27
15:33

Never A Phase 27: Pedro Aida | The Iron Roses & Shotclock

Cameron sits down with Pedro Aida of The Iron Roses for a conversation about DIY punk, community, and keeping the music moving on your own terms. Pedro wears a lot of hats in the punk world, from fronting ShotClock and Fire Sale to keeping The Iron Roses busy, but this conversation centers on the...

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Never A Phase 26: MEGG
EP 26
1:00:01

Never A Phase 26: MEGG

Never A Phase 26: MEGG On this episodeof the Never A Phase Podcast, Swemo is back in the home studio talking to MEGG! Megg lives in the dual worlds of SoCal and Nashville, starting out as a pop girlie, she’s embraced her inner Low Life and is now making pop-punk for the kids not afraid to get a l...

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Never A Phase 25: Vans Warped Tour Montreal /w Good Sleepy & Boston Manor
EP 25
12:29

Never A Phase 25: Vans Warped Tour Montreal /w Good Sleepy & Boston Manor

Never A Phase goes international at the Vans Warped Tour Montreal! In this episode of Never A Phase, Cameron (your elder emo mom) travels across the border to talk to Good Sleepyand Boston Manor! They talk music, Disney, what was and what wasn’t a phase and more! Never A Phase Network covers emo,...

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Never A Phase 24: Mike Lin at Warped Tour with Initiate & Water Tower
EP 24
16:50

Never A Phase 24: Mike Lin at Warped Tour with Initiate & Water Tower

Never A Phase Network heads back to Vans Warped Tour Long Beach 2026 as Mike Lin talks to two great bands from this year's Warped Tour! Mike is a Warped Tour lifer and former pit photographer, bringing a unique perspective to the conversation from someone who has spent years experiencing the scen...

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